I am going to do something I’ve not done before. I’m going to draw attention to one of the best replies I’ve ever read – anywhere. It’s from my recently syndicated post on Eve News24 (and yes, I know it was formatted for crap – sorry R, won’t happen again.)
Matt E flies for TEST. What he has to say about that is important. We all get swept up in the politics of the roles we assume (yes, I act out a role- that’s what ROLE PLAY is,) but we must never forget what is truly important: having fun. We all need to take a deep breath, remind ourselves this is a game, and understand the guy in the other ship isn’t a real enemy – s/he is just a human being trying to have some fun.
Here are Matt’s insightful comments on just how that’s done for him, in its entirety and edited only for spelling (link here.)
“The PVP side in EVE isn’t as cut and dried as you make it seem. Nor are the reasons that people fight. While there are many EVE corps out there that are all about the kill board stats, TEST, Goons and the CFC in general aren’t among them. In fact, if you care even a little bit about your kill board, I would suggest staying as far from the CFC as you can possibly get. To the point of perhaps playing a different game. It is that much of a detriment for you if you are facing off against any entity inside the CFC. If you care about KB stats, every loss is a moral blow where to the CFC a loss is just another happy pilot who got to get into some pew pew! They give no fucks about their KB Stats. Dotlan and the slope are the only stats that matter.
One thing that you seem to be missing is that TEST views kill board warriors with the same contempt that they hold dedicated carebears and for much the same reasons. Both groups are risk adverse and, in my view at least, detrimental to an organization’s ability to survive. Carebears won’t undock because they are afraid of losing something and the killboard warriors won’t undock unless they are assured of a win. There is only one currency that matters in EVE, and it isn’t isk, it isn’t ships and it isn’t tech. It is active pilots who are willing to log in! If you have groups that will only do so under very restrictive conditions like KB Warriors and Carebears, then you have a major organizational problem.
The motivations of TEST and GOONS are probably the easiest to figure out of any entity in EVE. Both groups exist to provide a community for their members to play together. That is the prime and only reason for them to exist.
Next you have to realize that the “Carebear lifestyle” that you are so fond of simply has always been impossible for both groups. I can only speak from direct experience with Dreddit and TEST, but it is my understanding that Goons experienced nearly identical treatment. What happened in the case of Dreddit is that they were war deced from the very first day of their existence. By the end of their first month, that had grown to 4 or 5 continuous war decs by the supportive pubbies of Empire. At this time, there were rules in Dreddit against scamming, rules even about talking in local or smack talk at all! What they got in return was unending hostility and derision. So in order just to actually play this game. In order to give their industrialists a place to build stuff, their miners a place to mine and their ratters a place to rat they had to fight and fight hard from the very get go. If you go into an organization with that kind of history with the attitude that you don’t want to fight, you can’t expect a warm reception. Nor will you find support of that attitude from an organization with that history externally. The kind of play style that you advocate would have ment that Dreddit would never have made it past their first month and TEST wouldn’t have happened at all. Your ideals are suicide and you seem to be eternally disappointed when your opponent doesn’t do the honourable thing and shoot themselves in the head. Everyone said that Dreddit would go no where and the TEST was a dead end and most of those people would agree with what you say in your blog now. The reality is that there are all play styles represented inside the CFC.
What you experience external to the CFC with things like Hulkageadon and Burn Jita and the like can be summed up as “Narrative” and nothing else. Goons don’t exist to make you miserable, they exist to give their members a place to play where they won’t be persecuted endlessly. What you are seeing is their leadership doing things to keep their members engaged and logging in. Leadership in the CFC revolves around insuring that your members ALWAYS have something to do and friends to do it with. That means that events like Burn Jita are popular and a good way to drive group activity and build cohesion. They also serve as recruitment platforms as events like that tend to really drive new members to sign up. The fact that it makes you miserable is just a bonus really. The tears, hair pulling and wild speculation from people who, as the poster above put it “Lack the context even to insult us properly” is eternally amusing.”
Thank you Matt for taking the time to explain all this to a carebear. I feel you, as my son would say. Now, to all my readers I say this. Stop abusing each other. We are all doing this for fun an LULZ. When I “slam” GSF it’s for that reason and that reason alone. I don’t hate them. I actually have a great deal of respect for them and for many of the reasons Matt outlines. There’s a good reason GSF has been around so long. So oppose them in game (as I have chosen to do,) but treat them respectfully otherwise. They deserve no less. (Same goes for you too GSF.)